Russia and Ukraine have been engaged in a kinetic warfare, but they’re also fighting an information war. Russia state media continues to spread propaganda and false narratives, while Ukraine attempts to push back against disinformation and rally Ukrainians to help defend the country. There’s also the battle that’s being waged over cyber. Host Marco Werman speaks with cybersecurity expert Dmitri Alperovitch, he heads the Silverado Policy Accelerator, a think tank based in Washington.