Marco Werman: Hi. I am Marco Werman, you're listening to The World. One thing we did not talk about specifically during our World Cup show yesterday is the trophy itself. Soccer's Holy Grail. The World Cup trophy is actually a gold sculpture about a foot tall, with a globe held all off by two twisting opponents. Reporter Jack Williams, just wrote a story about the trophy, and it's history, and one thing he told me is that the winner actually doesn't get to take it home.
Jack Williams: The winning team get's a replica of the the trophy, which is as identical, has the same height, etc.
Werman: Now, the trophy that's currently being used for the World Cup, that's been used for the past several decades was not the original. What happened to the original?
Williams: So,the original in 1970, after Brazil won the third tournament, was given to Brazil to keep. It was written in the original laws of the World Cup that whoever won it three times, would get to keep that trophy, and it's also a very good time for FIFA, because it was kinda coming to the edge of television, and soccer was getting in the bigger global reach, so they decided that they wanted a trophy that would be more of a say pleasing on TV, so they commissioned for a new one to be made in 1971.
Werman: Right, they chose a design of a man from Milan, an Italian name Silvio Gazzaniga. Who is he? and why did they like his design?
Williams: Silvio, he always designed, I guess symbols of other people's success. He grew up in Milan, he created skiing medals, as well as jewelry in the city, and worked his way up to a local trophy making firm, and then once he reached the top, he kind of submitted some designs, and FIFA liked his designs so much I guess, because, I think it was different from many other trophies that were around at that time. I think there were a lot of European club trophies which is kind of plain silver trophies with big handles, more of a cup i guess, they were you know cup shaped, where as this is kind of different.
Werman: Yeah, I mean is that kind of what really distinguishes this trophy from other sports trophy that this is not really a cup? I mean is there something else about it that you find really distinctive?
Williams: Yeah, I mean the fact that it also is gold looks great on TV. You can kinda see when any of the World Cup captains have lifted it in the past, you can get this beautiful sunlight reflecting of the contours of the trophy, and yeah from other trophies you think about, they also not small and compact, they usually big with huge handles and that just goes back to when many of them were designed a lot of like big trophies in Italy, Spain, even the premiere league in England, they kind of follow a traditional model of trophy whereas this is kind of a step up from the rest.
Werman: Yeah, a beautiful trophy for the beautiful game. Jack, when you reported this story, did you get a chance to ask Silvio Gazzaniga, how he felt when Italy hosted his trophy in 2006?
Williams: I did indeed, Yeah, Silvio is a very modest man, he just kind of said he was happy when his design was chosen and not much more. But, when he saw Italy win both in 82 and 2006, I think he said that's when it really hit for him. I think also the fact that you got to picture when Gazzaniga, was growing up, he was kinda growing up just before world war 2 in Italy, and he said he lived in harsh times, his family went very well off financially, and Italy won the World Cup in 34 and 38, but he never actually got to see his nation lift the trophy first hand, so I mean, I guess the feeling of seeing your nation lift your trophy, really kind of put that sad feelings to bed for him.
Werman: Jack Williams, Thanks very much for telling us about the trophy. Good to speak with you.
Williams: Yup, Thanks Merco.