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In the last two years of medical school, students go through clinical rotations. These rotations allow students to get a sense of the different sub-specialties of medicine. (Photo by Patsy Lynch via Wikimedia Commons.)

The process of becoming a doctor typically takes four or more years for students to complete. But now some universities are looking into shortening the process by one year -- in part to minimize the burden of student debt.


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New York University along with a group of other universities will offer to a select group of students the option of completing medical school in three years instead of four

Art Caplan, director of medical ethics at NYU's Langone Medical Center, says the length of time it takes to get a medical education ending is arduous — and this proposal looks to change that. 

"You have two years of basic science at nearly every medical school. Then two years of clinical rotations; you dip into surgery, you see pediatrics, you get a sense of the different sub-specialties of medicine in the last two years,” he said.

This model was adopted from Germany in the early 1900’s after American Simon Flexner visited Europe. At the time, Germany had the best medical schools and had just instituted a system like the one the U.S. uses now.

But, Caplan says, he thinks the model is somewhat outmoded. Two years of basic science, for example, doesn't give students enough mastery of the science to help anyone, he said.

"If you can get that down maybe to a years worth of work and keep the clinical activities as they are, I think you're going to be able to get the smartest and the best of the medical school class to push through — going summers, starting a little bit early in the three years,” he said.

Internationally, it’s highly competitive, Caplan says. Schools like NYU are taking a gamble by considering shortening the program by a year because, if a program has the reputation of producing below average medical doctors out of their medical school, they’ll be hurt in the marketplace.

"It costs about $300,000 and more to get out of medical school given the tuition costs over four years,” he said. “If you can take some of that weight off the back of a medical student I think you're going to see more people being able to go into a broader set of specialties.”

A medical student would be less likelyto pick the high priced-specialties like heart surgery or neurosurgery to pay off their debt, Caplan says, if costs decline. Instead, you’ll see students choose a broader range of specialties out of the three-year program because they’ll have less debt.

As for the overall savings of a three-year program, it’s significant.

"You're probably talking about $60,000 in tuition, room and board and books and all the rest of it — saved out of that $300,000 cost,” he said.

NYU will select up to 10 percent of the class to take the three-year path to medical school, Caplan said, because they want to make sure it’s going to work. It will take probably five years to see how the students do. 

One key measurement, Caplan says, will be if those students get the residencies they want.

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Benedictus 02 January, 2013 01:08:56
They tried this during WW II and during Vietnam and went back to four years soon after. What did they learn from the 1970's experience? I recall Einstein and NY Med Coll tried it then. The major difference was that they shaved very little off of the first 2 years. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
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Jayzee 02 January, 2013 03:29:26
"A medical student would be less likely to pick the high priced-specialties like heart surgery or neurosurgery to pay off their debt, Caplan says"
Ummm...this guy obviously is not familiar with what's currently going on with medical students. No person in their right mind goes into Neurosurgery or Heart Surgery for the lifestyle. A bit of a tip off that he's clueless.

And shortening medical school to lower total student debt? Are you kidding me? You need every single one of those years and then some to be a doctor. In fact, given the new stricter work hour regulations, some specialties are thinking of adding to residency time. But they want to cut a year off the prepwork? What is that saying about an ounce something being worth a pound of something else?

If this somehow catches on, I pity the next generation of doctors; woefully unprepared for what they are expected to do. Even being a younger doctor, I've seen many of the gray-hairs complain that our training is not rigorous enough and that new doctors simply have not had enough experience to practice well independently.

Maybe instead of cutting training to reduce student debt, they should be figuring out why the heck they are charging so much for medical school!!
The rest of the first world manages to pay for most medical schooling so medical students can actually choose the specialty they love rather than the one that will allow them to pay their student loans!
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Common 02 January, 2013 03:53:15
I believe it was Abraham Flexner who visited Europe and recommended the European model to the USA.
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PreMed Roadmap 02 January, 2013 05:09:49
We have several questions about this new curriculum. How do you expect students to do on USMLE Step 1 now that you are limiting their time in the basic sciences? How do you plan to manage student stress levels and burnout now that students will start early and take fewer breaks? How do you plan to reduce tuition if students will be starting earlier and going through summer?
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Third Year Med Student 02 January, 2013 07:09:32
I think this is a wonderful idea. Much of the information within the first two years of medical school could be left out - there are so many basic science details included at the moment that it's hard to learn the important, big picture messages in courses like immunology or genetics. I found that I was losing the forest for the trees, even though I was a biology major in my undergraduate studies! The problem is that medical schools primarily have each lecturer just give 1-2 lectures on a topic, instead of having 1 lecturer giving many lectures as in an undergraduate course. As you might imagine, lectures are disjointed and vary highly in quality and clarity. I think that at least 6 months could be cut out, if not an entire year.
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Resident 04 January, 2013 12:21:24
The insertion that medical students choose heart surgery/neurosurgery and other surgical specialties because of tuition costs is inane, oft-repeated drivel. Med students choose those specialties because in our system you earn more money and are accorded more respect if you specialize, ideally in something surgical, otherwise in something procedural based. American medicine is very hierarchical, largely as a consequence of the reimbursement decisions of medicare/aid. The idea that med students can be nudged into picking a specialty against the grain of their own welfare on the basis of encouragement, decreased debt, whoop-de-doo fundamentally misunderestimates the human impulse to respond to pragmatic incentives (in short, less work, more bling>>anything med school administrators can come up with to incentivize ppl going into primary care).
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Joel 05 January, 2013 07:01:11
It would be great to have transcripts for the wonderful stories that you broadcast. I have a little hearing impairment that does not let me hear the whole audio stories.

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